mdw2589

Brand New Marineland Rimless 60G Cube Build

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mdw2589   

Super excited to be getting a brand new tank. I've never had a new tank before. In fact, I've been using the same 30 gallon Cube for about 8 years. When I bought it, it was already used and has some scratches. Over the years, its seen even more abuse and has quite a few scratches. No razor blades will see this new tank.

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The new tank was picked out today at Waterworld and set aside for pickup in about a week and a half. I was able to work out a deal with a buddy who was already working on getting a macaw from a local store here in town. Long story short, I was able to help him get the bird home today in exchange for him paying me back and also buying the tank. Some people may think this is crazy, but he was very motivated to bring the bird home due to the conditions it was currently in and the way it was being handled and treated. Either way, it worked out for both of us and now I'm getting a brand new tank!

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I will be designing and building the stand hopefully this next week and a half. I have a 20 gallon tall that will be used for the sump or refugium. I just upgraded to an SB Reef light a few weeks ago so that will be the main light over the new 60.

I'll be documenting the build in this thread and tracking the progress as it comes along. Both my 30 gallon cube and my 8 gallon nano reef will be combined into this one tank.

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Decided to try and not use the old sand from the 30g due to age and neglect. I'll use just a little to help seed. I've been blowing the sand out every day with a Turkey baster and changing the filter floss like a mad man in preparation.

I have some,about 70lbs, of old, dirty, dry sand from previous builds, and decided to sift it over the weekend. The end result was about 45lbs of fine grain sand from 2, 5 gallon buckets full of the old stuff. Still have to clean and dry, but very happy with the quality so far.

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mdw2589   

I love the design of cubes and have a 45 cube myself. Looking forward to seeing where you take yours.

Richard

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I do too. They've always been my favorite. The 150 at petland is killing me. I'm still not sure of the direction of the tank. Def lots of lps and zoas. I've been wanting to dabble in sps, so who knows.

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The 60g is pre-drilled with only 2 holes. I'm thinking about drilling a 3rd to serve as a back up overflow. I've only ever drilled 1 tank and it was awhile ago. With there already being 2 holes, will the glass be strong enough to withstand a 3rd?

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My marineland 93 I had a 3rd added in the overflow. A 3/4". I went with a Herbie style drain. The 3/4 is my return.

Sweet, thanks drauka. After looking at the herbie, I really like that design. A 3/4" might be a little easier to drill too.

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drauka   

I had the tank flipped over and 3/4" was the only one I though would fit safely that close to the 2-1"...it was still a gamble

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That was my concern as well. Did you use a guide? If so, how did you attach it to the tank or get it to stay in place? I was thinking of siliconing the wood guide in place and I can scrape it off when I'm done. If that doesnt work, there's always ductape.

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drauka   

I took it in to a glass shop and let them drill it.  I lined up the bulkheads and traced where I wanted the hole and they took care of the rest.  I think it was $20 and took the stress off of me. The bottom glass is pretty thick so that helped, although they were concerned that it might chip a little on the inside.  It didn't, and the bulkhead flange would have covered it if it did.

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Lol before reading this, I found someone who drills tanks for $15/hole. No brainer considering the price of just the diamond bit alone. They will most likely get my business.

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drauka   

yeah,  for a single its a no brain'er.  for multiple you can save some money by doing it yourself.  Good luck.  As I am sure you are aware, drilling any more holes in the tank voids the warranty.   

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Been pretty busy this week. Got the tank on Thursday along with all the lumber for the stand. I decided to pull the carpet today and will start laying the new floor tomorrow. I might have to run a little floor repair or self leveler in a few spots, but if I have to play the wait game I'll start building the stand.

I wasn't planning on doing this till next weekend. I got a little carried away and before I knew it, I was saying "Screw it, I'm putting this floor in tomorrow!"

I just feel like I can't move forward with the build till I know the floor is ready for the tank. Hopefully tomorrow will be that day!

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The floor didn't go as planned and I'm stuck waiting on the threshold to come in. Hopefully another week and it'll be done.

In the meantime, I've been working on the stand. Still got to figure out what to do about wrapping the stand....not sure if I'm going to do doors or another route. I want full access to the sump but don't want hinges sticking out. So if anyone has any ideas, I'm all ears... since its not in the living room, it doesn't have to be a show quality piece of furniture, but my personal preference is no hinges. I want all the attention on the tank anyways. I've been leaning towards light weight veneer with Velcro for quick removal.

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How long can I run my 30g without the sump? I need to steal a few plumbing parts to complete the 60 and it would mean no overflow or return for the 30 for awhile. I've got all the plumbing mapped out but stuck till I figure this out. I'm thinking maybe a week or longer with good water changes. This will have to wait till I get closer to being ready to move the tank in. So after stealing parts and once I can confirm no leaks, its game on from there. I'm thinking I'll have to work pretty quick to avoid a crash. It would be cool if I could run the 30g without the sump for a could weeks to work out the scape in the 60.

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Main overflow, need other hose from 30g

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Return. Need blue hose connector from 30g

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drauka   

How much clearance is there between the top of the sump and the top of the stand. It looks like it will be tough to work in that sump in the pic.

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It's certainly not as much room as I would like. However, it's about 7 inches to the 2x4 and 11 inches to the plywood. The room is workable enough so that I can reach my entire arm down to the bottom of the sump....The stand sits about 36 inches and I really didn't want to make it any taller. Originally, I was hoping for a 30 inch stand but that would have only left me a couple inches to get into the sump.

If I had picked an appropriate size sump, this probably wouldn't be an issue, but I really wanted a huge refugium so I'm ok with the clearance for now.

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drauka   

make sure you can get your skimmer in and out of the sump without having to pull the sump.  I have a friend with a sump where you can't without breaking the skimmer, not a good thing.  Sounds like you should be fine though,

 

Whats the bio load on the current tank?  I don't know that I would run a tank very long at all without a sump for filtration. 

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That's a good point about the skimmer. I was hoping to go skimmerless but not sure if it's going to be possible. I don't have the money for a legit skimmer right now and my diy skimmer has been doing ok in the 30....I might try to build a bigger one out of pvc this time.

Bioload of the 30:

2 clowns(1 tiny)

1 canary blenny

1 cherub angel

Pencil urchin

Cuc

Couple frags <10

I can mount the skimmer to the display and I've got a good amount of rock in there currently, but will be gradually moving them over to the 60.

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This is the basic design of the sump. Still have to cut holes and slots. First section is 8in for potential skimmer. The middle section(fuge) will be almost exactly 20 gallons. The return section will hold 5 gallons or more of back flow at a 8in operating water level, but only expecting 2 gallons or less of back flow.

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Also finished and attached the top. 5/8 plywood.

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The question as to how long the 30g can go without a sump is now, for the most part, null and void. I had a "DUH moment" this morning when I remembered that I have a fluval 205 sitting in the garage waiting to be used on the quarantine setup. I started keeping 2 of the sponges in the sump, about a month ago, for any emergencies. Looks like its going to pay off.... The fluval should hold me over during the plumbing thievery and aqua-scaping of the 60 so I can take my time and not rush the process. I'm very picky about the scaping and will probably change it numerous times. I should be able to move everything over more slowly like I prefer.

 

Floor threshold still hasn't arrived so still playing the waiting game. I'm surprised Home Depot doesn't answer the phone, "No Micah, its still not here yet," by now. I might try to silicone the sump baffles in during the mean time.

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Finally finished and it looks awesome! Pretty exhausted but everything worked out nicely. Ended up using pink insulation board for the walls of the stand along with Velcro for easy removal. Came out better than expected and way easier than wood.

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Finally finished and it looks awesome! Pretty exhausted but everything worked out nicely. Ended up using pink insulation board for the walls of the stand along with Velcro for easy removal. Came out better than expected and way easier than wood.

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Thanks a cool idea, should also keep things quiet. How well did it take paint?

It does look good, great job. Nice aquascape too

Aaron

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Hey thanks Aaron. I sprayed a very light coat of spray paint as a primer. Probably could've used real primer, but you know... laziness. Did 3 coats of gloss latex and bam! Light weight, semi rigid, easy to remove panel.

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