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Trying It Again, 40 Breeder, Well Maybe 93 Cube

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Yeah, the guy was breaking down his tank and as Richard said the price was right. I am going to add both to the apex at some point.

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He has a 90 cube I think Mike. I think he is like me in that he is buying equipment for current tank but buying it in such a way as to be able to move everything to a larger tank down the road.

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drauka   

Like 48"×30"×24" tall 150. I don't like tanks taller than 24" or so. A 6' 180 is one of my all time favorite dimmension ed tanks.

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Btw I priced the glass to make the sump and it's 245 dollars for 1/4 inch glass it's 48 by 22 and 18.5 tall

Is this a good price? And is 1/4 thick enough

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I think you want Degan. He has built tanks and sumps. I have just added baffles and such.

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Drauka

Btw I priced the glass to make the sump and it's 245 dollars for 1/4 inch glass it's 48 by 22 and 18.5 tall

Is this a good price? And is 1/4 thick enough

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Why not buy a cheap 55 or 75 and add baffles? I think you would save money there.

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I did I got a 55 but don't like the height it's 22 tall and would be hard to work in

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55s are tall and narrow, I guess that's why 40b are so popular for sumps.

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yes a 40 Breeder is about perfect for sumps.  Once you hit the 100 gallon range the 40 is just not quite big enough, in my honest opinion.  At that point its either bulkheading 2 tanks together and hoping they don't leak or going the custom route.  

 

In my craziness I am possibly pondering a "smaller", "simpler" build in the later part of this year that may require a custom sump.  We will see... only considering it since i have about 90% of the equipment already. 

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Updated the tank over the weekend.   

 

Removed the DC8 from the Apex, added a EB8 -  adds some functionality in the Apex and freed me up to use the Aquacontroller JR elsewhere.

Added VDM to the Apex for LED and Pump control

Added 2 - gyre interfaces to V3 and V4 of the VDM

Removed the 300 watt Chinese Blackbox from the system and installed a single Kessil 360we and added it to the VDM

Replaced the Doseing containers with slim jugs.  (I may change back since it seems the cumulative effect of this was lost space rather than the gain I had hoped for.) 

Installed external covers on the stand for the 40 breeder system that currently has all the fish in it.

Added Aquacontroller Jr to the 40 breeder system and programmed it 

Added Rapid LED Onyx light over the 40 Breeder system

Adjusted the Profiles for both the Kessil and the 2 gyre pumps (on-going)

 

between all that and the meeting Sunday,  was a busy tank weekend.  And I still need to install the carbon reactor and trim cheato.

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Equipment size needs and the water backflow from a full shut down.  You can make them work but the margin for error starts getting small with the bigger tanks.  about the biggest refugium I have been able to fit in a 40 breeder sump is ~15 gallons, that's not much when you start talking about a 100 gallon and larger display.  With algae turf scubbers being the new hot thing then you can probably make one work.  With my preferred setup - oversized skimmer, reactors and as large a refugium as possible then the space constraints of a 40 begin to be a hindrance in bigger systems. My thoughts are if you are setting up a $800 and more display then you need to devote a larger than 40-60 bucks on the sump.  

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Equipment size needs and the water backflow from a full shut down. You can make them work but the margin for error starts getting small with the bigger tanks. about the biggest refugium I have been able to fit in a 40 breeder sump is ~15 gallons, that's not much when you start talking about a 100 gallon and larger display. With algae turf scubbers being the new hot thing then you can probably make one work. With my preferred setup - oversized skimmer, reactors and as large a refugium as possible then the space constraints of a 40 begin to be a hindrance in bigger systems. My thoughts are if you are setting up a $800 and more display then you need to devote a larger than 40-60 bucks on the sump.

A sump is for equipment. A Refugium is anther matter. You could fit everything in a 40 and there is plenty of room to accept water from a shut down, however a Refugium takes up a lot of space.

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Here is how the ramping is currently for the 2 gyres in the tank.  Both are the smaller 130 models setup on the Apex using the vdm and the icecap interfaces.  

 

One gyre is set in the normal configuration with the nozzles angled slightly up on the upper left side of the tank.  

 

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The other grye is on the back glass turned vertical with one nozzle pointed along the left pane of the tank and the other pointed diagonally across the tank to the far corner. 

 

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Gyres shut off at 20%,  hence the 25% on the low settings  that way there is always movement but it is very calm

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yes and they are model specific, you have to pick the 130 or the 150 module based on which you have, but they come with an interface cable that can connect 2 of the modules and use a single VDM port.  Granted this way you can only run the gyre in forward motion.  If it becomes an issue I will buy the modified cables and another VDM to control each unit in both forward and reverse.  

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